Right on Thirteenth, rock and roll ! I worked out the details over the phone with an elder last Saturday morning and he offered to me stay in so that maybe if one day I feel different I could come back easily, to keep dialogue open. This after I told him I'd been scammed into baptism by the old bait and switch Bible education to Cult trick, the ARC and them not being God's sole dispensary of truth. When I turned down his offer and said that ever since I've resolved to DA I've simply been happier he got all butt hurt, most likely because he no longer has any control over me. Company man looking to manage me using 'smooth words' which they accuse apostates of using, hypocrites. Told him I just want to be honest with everyone is all, why the big ordeal ? Reminds me of trying to break a car lease or some other binding contact, the one loosing income gets all bent out of shape and goes legal. Good thing we don't sign anything with them, can you imagine if we did ?
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Just handed in my Disassociation letter
by Thirteenth tribe intonight my dl was posted by hand by my husband (a worldly guy).
i had the luxury of being at work distracted whilst he posted it.
i have been baptised for just over 2 years and studied since 2010. i couldn't take it anymore, not just the zealous dislike/disgust for 'people in the world' (this includes my husband and 99% of my family btw) but the obvious.... the investigations into child sexual abuse.
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Do not Disassociate, Anull your baptism
by jwfacts ini am now a jedi, so trust me on this.. .
why dis-associate, you are just playing by the wts rules?
how can you dis-associate anyway, you never thought you were baptised as a watchtower society member, you thought your dedication was to god, so why formally disassociate from something you did not formally join?
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In my case I just DA'ed way simpler. Just wanted to send a message and give a warning shot across the bow.
Triumph : Lay it on the line ( good Canadian Rock )
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What could the FDS theme tune be?
by pandorasbox1914 inwhat do think guy's?for me it would have to be jimi hendrix "all along the watchtower" and when they end their earthly course, led zeppelin's "stairway to heaven"any other good songs?
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Can You Feel The Love?
by OneFingerSalute injust heard of an experience that proves what i have thought all along about the unique type of love in the jdubya religion.. an elderly, handicapped jdubya acquaintance was traveling alone through the mid-west recently and found themselves stranded in denver, colorado due to dangerous road conditions.
not knowing anyone, and having no way to get from place to place on their own they made a number of phone calls.
finally they were able to get in contact with an oh so christian "sister" who had with her husband spent many decades in bethel.
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As a single person I've lost count of how many times I was treated as a third wheel and discriminated against. It led to my being even more of a loner and introvert, who needs that ! Then you get the odd sympathetic person how tells you how you should be living your life. One elder told me I'd get more respect from members if I reached out and did more. I was then doing 12+ hours and running my own business and making most meetings. I eventually burnt out and became suicidal. Thanks a lot, feel the love !
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The Demons were messing with me last night!
by olongapo joe inso said my pops one morning.
we were visiting my sister in eastern tennessee and the night before after everyone else went to bed pops was watching tv when all of a sudden and completely on it's own the tv changed to the tonight show, holy smokes!!
must be demons cause pops didn't change it!
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In 2008 at the heights of my depression before the stock market crash I had a self centered useless investment advisor that had coaxed me into shale natural gas exploration for a huge bank sponsored commission. My brother and I got close to a 10 bagger with another related one initially it but I was then a heavily indoctrinated JW when all this happened. I somehow thought that the gain was worldly and greedy ( I know, yes stupid is an understatement ) and didn't know what to do. I asked her to come explain the play to us buy she never did have time to come around as things happened real fast in summer early fall and my brother was blinded by the gain, thought it was blue sky going forward.
Well what happened one night is I woke up with a jolt around 1 or 2 in the morning and had just realized that I had to cash out of everything and get to the side lines fast, was just a huge gut feeling as I'm sort of an HSP ( highly sensitive person ) As I tried to get up to think things through and pull my statement and write down some notes to face my manipulative arrogant " investment counselor" I was pinned to my bed, all limbs and body paralyzed. I could barely move my head and felt so exhausted ( as I was suffering for overwork burnout trying to rune my own business and toe the JW line making everyone happy trying to be good at everything ) that I passed out back to sleep. The next morning I hardly remembered any of it and thought I must be overreacting. Took a few weeks until I realized what happened and I though it must have been a supernatural cause, not. By them my portfolio had tanked another 10% and would eventually loose all and even more of any previous gains. Can you say greenhorn ?
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Cappytan has made a video. Here is the link
by joe134cd inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsbfnzrbiqq
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Looking forward to it, the Spanish guy vid talking about new light from the GB is classic ! I must of watched it two dozen times and it still cracks me up ! "we were half baked when we wrote that stuff" hahaha !!
I'll check back later for sure !
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What precisely is TTATT.
by atomant inpardon my ignorance but lm a newby in here.lve tried researching it but l cant find a definitive answer.ls it dealing with one particular subject or multiple subjects?.thankyou in advance.regards atomant.my mistake.i meant ttatt.sorry.
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What Rosemarie is getting at I think is Kingdom hope through Christ Jesus as high priest in the pattern of Melchizedek. Jordly.com also has a similar stance. Then again we are all free to believe whatever we like, so I prefer to stay as close to the Bible as possible, my choice. I don't force my views on anyone and as she said these are things you have to research and decide for yourself. Christian freedom.
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$10 per pub. Money begging session last night
by StarTrekAngel inlast night, during our "christian life and ministry" meeting, we had a session on local needs.
elder opened the talk with a disclaimer saying that this was a reminder (cited psalms about how david loved jehovahs reminders).
he reminded us of how bless we are of having our own local assembly hall.
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Will probably get some down votes but I always pay my way in anything I do, just fair play. I have no issues paying $10 a day that goes towards covering expenses. But now that I no longer support the WTBTS in any way shape or form they get none of it, simple. But the underhanded income - deficit statements they would announce always struck me as manipulative because well, they are.
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Apocalypse Delayed By M. James Penton
by Number1Anarchist inclick on preview book.
you can review the entire book it looks like.
has alot of good information.
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I enjoyed the third edition ( only one I read ) That said I find he could of done a better job bringing it up to date ass there are some passages that seem stuck in a time warp. Nonetheless a very good source of information well presented factually. A must read for deprogramming. -
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"Even if it isn't the truth, it's still the best way to live"
by Simon inhave you heard that old chestnut?
i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.
they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..
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I've mentioned this here before and I find it quite typical now that I'm up to speed on all things JW and TTATT.
Met a DF'ed bro through some friends say 20 years ago and the bro ( long back in for family and money in the pipe ) was astounded that a single then thirty something male didn't have a revolving carousel of loose women in and out of his house, that I didn't hit the strip clubs on aregular basis, that I had sound finances through hard honest work and not get rich quick schemes and that I was alcohol and drug free and had high moral standards all whilst being a generally good person with some Bible based knowledge.
Quite funny, and sad